According to the Wookipedia the Yuuzhan Vong get a mention in KOTOR 1. I've played it through several times, and I don't recall there being a reference to them.

Did anyone come across any possible Vong references?

None here. If there is, I want a screenshot as proof

Wasn't it Canderous story about the meteor?

I remember someone mentioned this in another post. Just need to link it...

EDIT: It is Revans Fate Post, 4th Page, but it dosnt say much. Also, yea you learn that from Canderous, as he sees this ship vanish while he was in an asteroid field. You dont see them, you only hear about them from Canderous.

I've gotton that. I never connected it to the Vong though, as he never comes out and says it.

Thanks.

Well, Canderous wouldn't know it was the Vong, would he?

But yeah, the first time I heard Canderous' story it sounded like a coral skipper to me. **shrug**

I don't think anywhere in the EU New Jedi Order Series is a description of coralskippers possessing that ability. However, if you turn to the EU Novel "Specter Of The Past" by Timothy Zahn, what eventually is revealed as a ship of Chiss design, manages to instantly disappear several times throughout the course of the novel, therefore fitting the description of what Canderous.

Eh, to be quite honest, I don't think there are any references to the Vong in KOTOR.

Um, you do relize the whole thing with the coralskippers were that they could do that. You didn't read the novels, did you? I read one and picked that up.

for one, the wekipedia is edited by anyone with an account so the person who put that info on may have been mistaken

and besides i cant see Canderous living to see the days of the New Republic

Actually, I have the whole series. Anywho...

"Coralskippers are not designed for long-range travel and must often rely on larger vessels for transportation." That's straight from the Wikipedia Entry on Coralskippers (found here: Coralskipper ~ you'll have to scroll down till you reach #25). Even if you don't buy into Wikipedia, every time you read about coralskippers, they are usually launched from someplace in-system. In this way, they're like TIE Fighters/Interceptors. Now if you could point out a specific example in NJO where coralskippers came without the aid of a nearby ship, planet, or whatnot, that would be greatly appreciated.

Now seeing that the Vong do not come from the Star Wars Galaxy, but rather a different one, taking this fact with the Wikipedia statement would suggest that a coralskipper would not be able to "go the distance" (as inter-galaxy travel is not a example of long-range travel, but rather very long-range travel). So I doubt that a coralskipper would appear in the Star Wars Galaxy between 3958-3956 B.B.Y., (that being The Second Sith War, which is what KOTOR plays out) especially when the Vong started preparations for the invasion during the days of the Empire.

Some people look WAY too heavy just to NOT accept that BioWare slipped a little reference in there...

Face it; it's there, and nothing you bring in can change a thing about that...

I mean the whole Dantooine/Alderaaan scene on the Leviathan could not happen no, since it needed to have 4000 years beyond in mind and Bastila, Revan and Karath do not live in the movies era? <_<

Agreed <_<

indeed

Now, was there really a need to say that after Xard already said basically the same remark? <_<

Why it's a representative from Bioware! Top of the morning to you! <_<

It was suggested and/or assumed that the ship Canderous talked about was of Vong designed. I merely am doubting that is the case for previously stated reasons. I am not, however, doubting that there is some sort of allusion ongoing in the lines Canderous spoke. That's all. Of course thanks to your constructive comments, this "debate" currently stands at a standstill.

As for Dantooine/Alderaan example, what type of people are most likely to play KOTOR? Star Wars fans! Now keep in mind that Episode 4: "A New Hope" came out about 2 and a half decades prior to the release of KOTOR. Therefore, what we have is Bioware alluding to the infamous scene with Princess Leia and Grand Moff Tarkin aboard the Death Star. It's just like when Kreia alludes to Boba Fett, while she mentions what will happen to the Mandalorians. To allude, by the way, is to make an indirect reference. I mean seriously, only Star Wars fans would appreciate the irony of that scene aboard the Leviathan.

Now I dont know how many Kotor fans read all of the expanded universe stuff (I for one don't), but I think for most casual gamers, Canderous' remark was simply about a strange alien species which he briefly encountered (maybe to return in Kotor 3?), while for the Expanded Universe fans, maybe an easter egg/acknowledgement of the Expanded Universe. Simple.

Sorry I have to comment on this. Kreia is talking about Jango Fett who was killed by Mace Windu. She says "too easily slain by a Jedi", Boba (if you discount EU) was killed by the Sarlacc, into which Han knocked him.

Yup. You got it. Just like the Vong reference.
Except this is for the EU-folks instead the movie folks.

You'll get it one day or an other.

KOTOR is also part of the EU, you know. They are not separate concepts.

But that gets a pardon because Kreia was peering into the future (the shocking thing is the future we WANT to know is vague and bleek)

Everything that is not the films, is EU. I used to be a Star Wars "Purist," but then I saw the awful Prequel Trilogy.

Jango Fett, Boba Fett...technically they are the same person. But yea, I forgot the "too easily slain by Jedi" part.

Eh, to be the Vong or not the Vong, isn't that the question? It could be as aero suggested, that the ship represents a new race or something, which becomes the basis for KOTOR 3 (my personal guess is that 3 tells of the return of the Sith species/civilization ~ as both endings to KOTOR 2 leave us staring at space that could beyond Republic's borders). But again, to those who think it was the Vong, got anything to support your claim?

Frankly, I think it's open to interpretation. If people want to believe it's a Vong ship I let them (heck I thought it was too, but now with all this true Sith stuff, who knows? )

And you're right technically Boba and Jango are the same person.

dont mean to intentionally go off topic, but where do you people gain all this EU information?

Novels, source books, and sites all over the net. :D

From Supershadow

or Wookiepedia (If you can trust it " )

where do people obtain these kotor comics which i hear so much about

From shops?

Yeah, right.

Yeah. Btw, Plagueis is lie, true master of palpy was Darth Imperius with COOL KYBER CRYTALZZZZ!!!

That site gives me big laugh everytime

actually, kreia was refering to jango fett, as boba fett was not killed by a jedi.


as for the coralskippers not having hyperdrives, that is not true. in one of the books, anakin, corran and tahari all take a corralskipper scout (which matches canderous' description of the ship in the game) to duro after they stumbled upon a vong fleet.

and the leviathon level with the Alderaan/dantooine mention is just an ironic scene, along with the confrontation between the heroes and malak.

The Duro thing occurs in "Rebirth." Now on pages 151-153 is the actual scene where they discover the ship, which is NOT a coralskipper scout. To quote the description, which appears on the bottom of 151, "The ship - if by ship one meant the available living space - was actually quite small. The bulk of the vessel was the concealing stone of the asteriod and vast caverns of greenware that none of them could even guess the function of." Now Anakin Solo does think it is a scout craft while Corran thinks its a surveillance craft.

However, what further proves that the ship in question is NOT A CORALSKIPPER is the fact that Corran states on 151, "A ship this size could have a hundred warriors on it." A coralskipper is a fighter, not a troop transport.

Now I invite you to look at Timothy Zahn's "Specter of The Past;" specifically pages 158-160. There, I believe, is an more closer fit to Canderous's words.

As for the Jango thing, next time don't come late to the party. It was already settled, thank you very much.

And with regards to the Leviathan thing, what is irony? Try something that is not expected. An allusion falls within this definition. Regardless, if you're going to deny that that scene on the Leviathan was not an allusion to "A New Hope," you seriously need to play the game and watch "A New Hope" again.

Moved to the new forum for "general Star Wars topics".

Just for the record, Boba wasn't killed in RotJ, so we don't know if it's a reference to him. That's true even if you discount the novels and comics as "stupid EU non-canon", since Boba makes an appearance in Jedi Academy.

If we take the EU into account, Boba isn't the last Mandalorian at all, since Fenn Shysa is there and even becomes Mandalore later...

KotOR wasn't saying Canderous would live that far, it's when you talk to him about his previous wars, he mentions 'playing' with pirates the Mandalorians chased into an asteroid field; what they thought was an asteroid turned out to be 'alive'. It shot out fire, and they chased it to the edge of the galaxy, where he said it continued outwards. Google "kotor vong reference" and you can see all the results from many other people doing their research. Hope this helps. Peace.

Asteroid, Shot out Fire, Left Galaxy........matches Vong ship descriptions perfectly.....could have been a larger Vong scout ship, you know.