I think you'll all agree that what we need to see in the next KotOR, if there is one, is....HUTTS WITH LIGHTSABERS!

Come on, you gotta admit, that would be so cool, having a Hutt member of your party, or just seeing one in a cutscene firing out force lightning or choking someone.

considering, apart from that blasphemy ridden pile of crap known as planet of twilight, hutts are supposed to be unable to feel the force, this idea would be completely dumb.

as dumb as that steaming pile of crap written by barbara hambly.

*gags* You whore! Hutts with lightsabers... *shudders* Maybe it's just me and my mind... but...

What we really need is no more KOTOR 3 threads.

Hahahaha, awwww that's what I was going to say....

I would like to slice a hutt with my lightsaber......

i was actually lookin forward to this post...u disapoint me **** wad

You say that with such...hatred...

I can feel the love in this thread...hey, I have an idea for KotOR III! Let's make a Force-power where you can have floating lightsabers to help you! For every upgrade to that power, you get another lightsaber to float!

What we really need in KOTOR 3 is:

(a) much less bugs,
(b) an explanation of what happened at the end of KOTOR 2 and
© a proper resolution to the series (unless there's going to be a KOTOR 4 )

Both wookiees and Hutts cannot (or are no longer allowed to) become Jedi, according to Lucas licensing (and despite their presentation in the Expanded Universe). We wanted to give Hanharr the option to become a Dark Jedi, but that was nixed as a result of that decision.

Yowch, that stinks. Well that's the problem with dealing with other people's liscenses... *sigh*

Honestly though, some of the things that made it into KOTOR2 (such as the darker overtones of the story to small things like how sophisticated the various droid characters were in their self-motivations) I'm surprised were accepted.

Isn't Chewbacca's nephew a Jedi in NJO?

Yup, but that is the new rule - as I said, despite their presentation in the Expanded Universe. George Lucas said (either in or near the development of Episode II) that wookiees and Hutts could not be Jedi, so there you go. I have no idea where that leaves Lowbacca or that other wookiee (Master Tyvokka) who was Plo Koon's master.

In KotOR 3 we need-

- A "where the hell did the "Darth" title come from? Did Revan just use it as an alias or was it some ancient title of the Sith Empire he resurrected?" explanation. Unless Lucas is hogging that for Episode III... the fiend.

- More T3-M4! I cannot believe that this game switched my attitude towards him from "complete indifference" to "absolutely adore the little guy".

- Oh and lightsabers. Tsch, obviously.

I always thought that the Darth title was pretty much a "if you want it, grab it" deal. Meaning that anyone who had the cajones to declare themselves a "Darth" could do so.

And its too bad that Lucas axed that idea, because it would have been a great plot device to have a Hanharr be a Sith. But then, this game has already been called "unchallanging", and therefore having a giant walking carpet with Force powers and extreme hatred fueling him might make the game ridiculously easy (that's nothing against the devs, mind you) ...

Yes I guess tying the story with what happens in other literature is one of the biggest challenges in developing a game based on a license. Software requirements elicitation must be a real pain on projects such as this one . On one hand you want to make the story sound good but at the same time, you're restricted by keeping the story consistent with the rest of the universe...

That would indeed explain why we have so many 'Darths' in these boards. "

Most of my second game was spent trying to influence Hanhar enough to awaken him.

He would have been seriously scary (like he wasnt already).

How about a droid in your party that could wield a lightsaber?

I like when he crushes things in the EU.

You want a General Grievous clone.

HK-54s with organic components for force sensitivity

Yes this falls under the lamest idea ever category. Though such an idea, sentient droids attempting to create force-users, could be used as a reason why a droid planet would be involved in a war of belief against the true Sith.

This is discriminatory. So, according to GL, Wookies are considered being primitive animals...

And contradicts himself about the Force touching all living things

These rules must definately suck when you're dealing with story-based action-oriented video games like this...

You've got 40 hours of content to fill, and you want your PC and NPC's to rock, but...

All of the amusing/interesting stuff you want to do with the Star Wars license is immediately put under the microscope. And if it seems even a little bit "poisoned" then fagedda 'bout it! It's gone like the chances of an NHL season in 2005. (w00t)

You can't "Cujo up" the ewoks. You can't have female Yoda party members which develop Miss Piggy-like crushes on the PC. You can't translate curses into Star Wars slang- like "Son of a bantha!" (still don't know how "intergalactic skank" made it into the first game, George's heart must've skipped a beat when he saw that one :ph34r: ).

I don't think so, as I understand it the Force is within all living thngs, but not all living things develop the ability to "use" the Force if you will. Just because a Wookie can't use the Force doesn't mean the Force isn't a part of it, remember that the Force is more of an analogy towards the essence of life, basically it is life. The Force is not the abilities the Jedi posses, they are in a sense more evolved thus can use and see other aspects of life others can't. There are plenty of races that can't use the Force in the way the Jedi can, I don't believe it makes a contradiction to the statement that the Force is within everything.

Just my opinion though.

How about a toilet???? Gee with all that running around they never seem to get a chance to 'be at one' with nature! "

right, it is the sense of "God" in the SW universe. Some people are priests but most are not...that kind of thing. Basically, if someone wanted a good idea of the Force, watch the movie Excalibur and listen to what Merlin says of "the dragon". It is basically the same thing. The Allthing...pantheism.

What kind of fuel do you think the hyperdrive is using??

What we need in KOTOR III is the option to have an alien PC. I would love to play as a Trandoshan Sith since they are my favorite Star Wars species.

Hutts with lightsabers are so much better.

I don't think that the RPG book of aliens backs this up either, but I don't own a copy so I can't say for certain.

A well. Lucas, both the person and the company, have lost my respect in several instances in the past several years.

Thanks for the flame. I really do appreciate seeing geeks from halfway across the planet insulting me when they don't even know me.

That's easy to answer. Czerka corporation realized that could glean new profits from Tatooine by shipping out Bantha Podo for hyperdrive fuel.

That is just strange, how is hutt meant to move anyways? is it meant to do the snail/slug act and push itself along with its tail *if* its in your party?

I was thinking of it using force speed to speed itself up. It's not a bad idea as force speed is often used in the game. Or, the Hutt could have a repulsorsled.

I think that means that Lowbacca is the galaxy's greatest con artist. :ph34r:

Lucas doesn't like the idea, but remember Lucas doesn't always approve of everything the EU does. His continuity is the movies, though he approves and helps with the EU from time to time.

So wookies can be Jedi, and Hutts the same in the EU. Just don't exspect to see Hutt and Wookie Jedi in the movies.

Not only that. It also means that from now on, no more Jedi wookies, EU or not. And of course no double-bladed lightsaber wielding slugs either.

Actually, NOTHING can be added to the EU (books, games, or otherwise) without Lucas' consent. Every NJO meeting included George Lucas - he sets the rules. For the games, it is Lucasarts, who in turn get their orders from Lucasfilm. This is what Chris Avellone was talking about in the other thread.

So Lucas had to have authorised the character of Lowbacca to be Jedi. That means he has gone back on what he originally said, but he's a hypocrite anyway so there's nothing new there.

Since Lowbacca is returning for the upcoming post NJO series, I don't it means that.

Kotor 3 wise I do think another Revan related Twist on his past while leaving many things left to the players' imagiation.

What it means is hes going to be killed. NJO Spoilers! *Lucas approved Anakin Solo and then after deciding one anakin was enough, had him killed. Course, it was one of the best death scenes ive ever read (Chewies was really great, so was Gandolf's).

Actually your wrong. Lucas approved that Anakin couldn't be the hero, and didn't say anything about killing him off. That was a decision made by the Arthur.

Lowbacca isn't going to be killed. Lucas doesn't really care what the EU does, and will have no reason to kill off a Wookie Jedi. What Lucas means is that no Wookie or Hutt will be a Jedi in the films. However the EU is another question entirely.

Did Lucas say why he doesn't want Wookie or Hutt Jedi? Seems kind of arbitrary.

Well obviously he's a specist.

Racist is a more appropriate word I think. Correct me though if I'm wrong.

You're telling me that, for example, a hut and a human can breed?

...

Oh God, now there's a mental image I could've lived without.

It means he won't allow any new characters that conflict with his views. Hence, no more Jedi wookies. Old ones, he can't suppress. He can't "delete" master Tyvokka, for instance, but don't expect to see someone like him anytime soon.

What we really need in K3, is K3 to be announced. "