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Oner
post Sep 22 2009, 05:26 AM
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Topic title reminds me, when will we be getting some juicy new trailers?
(I actually wrote begging instead of be getting at first /facepalm)


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post Sep 22 2009, 05:35 AM
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Oh well, it was always a wildcard.

I guess it's curtains for AP.
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post Sep 22 2009, 06:13 AM
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Well, it was obvious that something was going on and that is why some of us were getting concerned. At least we have some sense now of what that 'something' is and can conlude what many of us already have come to suspect. That we will not be seeing Alpha Protocol in October....or probably not even this year.

As for myself, I'll still be following the game and plan to get it whenever it does release. However, as of now I am going to go cancel my preorder and put it on something else. No sense in waiting when I can put my money on another game that I know is releasing.

By the way, anyone else get the feeling that what Sega really meant is that the game is not casual enough for a broad market appeal? Hopefully they don't ruin what could have been in the process of trying to appease Sega. Oh well, to be continued, I suppose.
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post Sep 22 2009, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (ironcreed @ Sep 22 2009, 02:13 PM) *
By the way, anyone else get the feeling that what Sega really meant is that the game is not casual enough for a broad market appeal? Hopefully they don't ruin what could have been in the process of trying to appease Sega. Oh well, to be continued, I suppose.
I suspect the same.


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post Sep 22 2009, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE (ironcreed @ Sep 22 2009, 06:13 AM) *
Well, it was obvious that something was going on and that is why some of us were getting concerned. At least we have some sense now of what that 'something' is and can conlude what many of us already have come to suspect. That we will not be seeing Alpha Protocol in October....or probably not even this year.


I think it's still a little early to report sighting the four horsemen. That was a couple months ago, and I believe Sega put up the supposed Oct 6 date on their website *after* that meeting. Personally, I'm still holding out for an Oct 27th release until we either hear something or the date arrives.
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post Sep 22 2009, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (Cl_Flushentityhero @ Sep 22 2009, 10:51 AM) *
QUOTE (ironcreed @ Sep 22 2009, 06:13 AM) *
Well, it was obvious that something was going on and that is why some of us were getting concerned. At least we have some sense now of what that 'something' is and can conlude what many of us already have come to suspect. That we will not be seeing Alpha Protocol in October....or probably not even this year.


I think it's still a little early to report sighting the four horsemen. That was a couple months ago, and I believe Sega put up the supposed Oct 6 date on their website *after* that meeting. Personally, I'm still holding out for an Oct 27th release until we either hear something or the date arrives.


I do hope you are right, but with no official announcement of a hard date a week out from October, I'm not so sure. Not to mention that Sega is not even showing the game at TGS. All I am doing is taking what info we have and all signs point to delay in my opinion. If it still releases in October, I'll be buying it. As of now, though, I would rather take my money and put it on something that is confirmed. Just playing it safe (and smart) is all and that never hurt anyone, last time I checked. original.gif
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post Sep 22 2009, 07:27 AM
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Nothing to see here. One Sega product evaluator had some notes on the game 6 weeks ago, summarized in a statement that could mean any number of things. The "initial level is too hard" bit is more specific and substantive, but difficulty balancing is one of the last (and hardest) things to finalize in a game. Comments on that (one way or the other) are to be expected.


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post Sep 22 2009, 07:31 AM
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My fear is that Sega won't allow them to release this game until Sega is happy with it, and the last couple month has been the tweaking for Sega approval process. And it's anybody's guess when they will reach the point Sega is happy, hence no hard committed release date.

What I hope doesn't happen is once again we get an Obsidian game where we talk about a game that "could have been". Instead of "if only Lucasarts gave them more time", it will be "if only Sega left them alone".
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post Sep 22 2009, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (Enoch @ Sep 22 2009, 11:27 AM) *
Nothing to see here. One Sega product evaluator had some notes on the game 6 weeks ago, summarized in a statement that could mean any number of things. The "initial level is too hard" bit is more specific and substantive, but difficulty balancing is one of the last (and hardest) things to finalize in a game. Comments on that (one way or the other) are to be expected.


I'm pretty sure that Michael Foster is a product evaluator for Sony Computer Entertainment of America (SCEA), not Sega. John Merlino in the AP paragraph would be Sega's person (Development Services Director at Sega of America I believe).
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post Sep 22 2009, 07:59 AM
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Well, if it does release in October, it is looking like one of those quiet, get it out the door without saying a word releases that usually do not bode very well. Regardless, I think the fact that Sega is not even bothering to show the game at Tokyo Game Show starting on September 24th is a big enough red flag all by itself. However, like the rest of you, I am hoping for the best.
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post Sep 22 2009, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (ironcreed @ Sep 22 2009, 07:59 AM) *
Well, if it does release in October, it is looking like one of those quiet, get it out the door without saying a word releases that usually do not bode very well. Regardless, I think the fact that Sega is not even bothering to show the game at Tokyo Game Show starting on September 24th is a big enough red flag all by itself. However, like the rest of you, I am hoping for the best.

ahh.. the "best" i could hope for is they will secretly unleash new info on alpha protocol during TGS. like,"surprise! you thought we forgot about this game, huh?"

sad.gif it could happen, right?!


but, at this point, im kinda hoping the game IS delayed. i have my eye on something that my $65 can go to. should be buying it around the time i expected AP to come out.
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post Sep 22 2009, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (Warren Bills @ Sep 22 2009, 06:29 PM) *
ahh.. the "best" i could hope for is they will secretly unleash new info on alpha protocol during TGS. like,"surprise! you thought we forgot about this game, huh?"

sad.gif it could happen, right?!

Why talk about Alpha Protocol on TGS? Its not like the game is really aimed at that market.
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post Sep 22 2009, 09:13 AM
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As we've said before, there were never any plans to show Alpha Protocol at TGS, as I don't believe the game is even coming out in Japan. So no news there is not bad news, it's simply no news.

And yes, I believe the gentleman in the quotes works for SCEA (assuming this is legit). As for what he said, obviously we enjoy any feedback that we can get, but without knowing how much of the game he played (and I seriously doubt that someone as busy as a product evaluator for Sony is going to be playing through an entire game if it's as long as Alpha Protocol), it's hard to judge what he meant by those comments. Suffice to say that Alpha Protocol is going to tickle your RPG tastebuds when it's released.


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post Sep 22 2009, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (Matthew Rorie @ Sep 22 2009, 06:13 PM) *
Suffice to say that Alpha Protocol is going to tickle your RPG tastebuds when it's released.
We know that already, we're the rabid fanboys, remember? teehee.gif


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post Sep 22 2009, 09:19 AM
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I don't know why you guys get so worked up over this. I've seen enough of the game to know that it's what I want and what I'll enjoy. I don't even watch any new trailers or read any new previews. My mind is already made up; any more and it would probably be more of a spoiler than anything.


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