Say hi to: Mr. James Zhang, what did i just find? woot?! Options

[Jorian Drake]

here is his site:

http://www.conceptart.org/artist/james-zhang/


and here is a little extra

http://www.jzconcepts.com/images/website/h..._links/KOTOR_3/


have fun, and do save the pics, i dunno how long you can access them there


EDIT:
apperantly the concept art was made already in 2004

This post has been edited by Jorian Drake: Feb 24 2008, 04:24 PM

[theslug]

BEWBIIIIIES!

Looks like some cool stuff to me though.

[Jorian Drake]

as i really don't know how long you can find the pics, i quickly combined some of them to upload it seperately:





we already listened to rumors about KOTOR 3 till now, but this is equal with a confirmation, and if its in work since 2004 then we might get it in 2009-2010

This post has been edited by Jorian Drake: Feb 24 2008, 04:31 PM

[Tale]

This is no way equal to confirmation. Existence of concept art does not always translate into WIP. The fact that the art is from 2004 pretty much assures this is one of the cases were it does not.

This post has been edited by Tale: Feb 24 2008, 04:55 PM

[Jorian Drake]

This is no way equal to confirmation. Existence of concept art does not always translate into WIP. The fact that the art is from 2004 pretty much assures this is one of the cases were it does not.

we could think if there were finished concept arts but no game announcement that the game might had been trashed, but then again, these pictures wouldn't be there but in the desk of Lucas

that i found these pictures only means the project is not dead, ergo 95% possible that its under developent even now


maybe i did say a little too 'big' with the word confirmation, but the importance of the found doesn't get negated by it


EDIT: also the fact that they only appeared now on the net and not before means the pictures were 'On the move', alas they were used

This post has been edited by Jorian Drake: Feb 24 2008, 05:01 PM

[Tale]

we could think if there were finished concept arts but no game announcement that the game might had been trashed, but then again, these pictures wouldn't be there but in the desk of Lucas

1) You're assuming these were created for a game that was WIP.
2) You're assuming these belong to Lucas.

Just because he has worked for Lucasarts does not mean all his art belongs to Lucasarts.

that i found these pictures only means the project is not dead, ergo 95% possible that its under developent even now

That you found these means only that this individual made them.

maybe i did say a little too 'big' with the word confirmation, but the importance of the found doesn't get negated by it

There is no importance here.

EDIT: also the fact that they only appeared on the net and not before means the pictures were 'On the move', alas they were used

Not showing does not mean "in use."

This post has been edited by Tale: Feb 24 2008, 05:09 PM

[Leferd]

Lucasarts began in-house preproduction work for K3 but scrapped it soon after K2 was released. This was probably part of that.

[Jorian Drake]

we could think if there were finished concept arts but no game announcement that the game might had been trashed, but then again, these pictures wouldn't be there but in the desk of Lucas

1) You're assuming these were created for a game that was WIP.
2) You're assuming these belong to Lucas.

The fact that they don't have copyright notices for Lucasarts implies these were done freely by this artist. IE, not sold to Lucasarts. Not done for an actual WIP game.

that i found these pictures only means the project is not dead, ergo 95% possible that its under developent even now

No. That you found these means only that this individual made them.

maybe i did say a little too 'big' with the word confirmation, but the importance of the found doesn't get negated by it

There is no importance here.

EDIT: also the fact that they only appeared on the net and not before means the pictures were 'On the move', alas they were used

No. Not showing does not mean "in use."

could you please stop being so negative and actually SEE the facts?

1. the guy who made this works for LucasArts

2. the linkname of the place where the pictures is is quite clear on what they are: jzconcepts.com/images/website/hidden_links/KOTOR_3

3. concept arts only get 'copyrighted' if they are actually meant to be shown, i was visiting 5 devteams till now while they worked and if they shown me some real concept arts (be it on paper or in early stadium on the pc) none of them had any logo or somesuch attached to them yet

whatever happened, why ever we didn't got a notification about the developement could still mean problems, as far i know LA this might very well be about licenses, but you can now stop being so defensive/negating about the pictures...or are you a secret LA employee, hmm?

This post has been edited by Jorian Drake: Feb 24 2008, 05:12 PM

[Tale]

could you please stop being so negative and actually SEE the facts?

1. the guy who made this works for LucasArts

2. the linkname of the place where the pictures is is quite clear on what they are: jzconcepts.com/images/website/hidden_links/KOTOR_3

whatever happened, why ever we didn't got a notification about the developement could still mean problems, as far i know LA this might very well be about licenses, but you can now stop being so defensive/negatin about the picts...or are you a secret LA employee, hmm?

1. So what?

2. OH NOES! Just because he made art for KOTOR 3 does not mean he was hired to, that the game was WIP, nor does it mean that the game is still WIP.

You're just rumor mongering by reading too much into something and then trying to pass it off as fact. The art is from 2004, for crying out loud. This is no different than the people who take every little release by Lucasarts and Bioware as CONFIRMATION THAT KOTOR III MMO IS IN PRODUCTION FOR 2009 RELEASE. I'm not being "negative." I'm being realistic. This is proof of nothing. Except that a guy, who occasionally has worked with Lucasarts, made some Star Wars art back in 2004. And maybe he made it for KOTOR 3. Back in 2004.

This post has been edited by Tale: Feb 24 2008, 05:19 PM

[Jorian Drake]

could you please stop being so negative and actually SEE the facts?

1. the guy who made this works for LucasArts

2. the linkname of the place where the pictures is is quite clear on what they are: jzconcepts.com/images/website/hidden_links/KOTOR_3

whatever happened, why ever we didn't got a notification about the developement could still mean problems, as far i know LA this might very well be about licenses, but you can now stop being so defensive/negatin about the picts...or are you a secret LA employee, hmm?

1. This is not a fact. There is no evidence these were made for Lucasarts. Until Lucasarts copyright notices appear on the work.

2. OH NOES! This means nothing except they weren't intended to be seen at the time. This is very open to interpretation.

You're just rumor mongering by reading too much into something and then trying to pass it off as fact. The art is from 2004, for crying out loud. This is no different than the people who take every little release by Lucasarts and Bioware as CONFIRMATION THAT KOTOR III MMO IS IN PRODUCTION FOR 2009 RELEASE. I'm not being "negative." I'm being realistic. This is proof of nothing. Except that a guy, who occasionally has worked with Lucasarts, made some Star Wars art back in 2004. And maybe he made it for KOTOR 3. Back in 2004.

only those artists are allowed to use LucasArts on their own site as part of the main page who are either linking to Lucasarts.com or have a fulltime job there

and these pictures are not visible on the guys real concepts site, they would be if the project would had been scrapped


you aren't just 'realistic' its like you oppose the idea that Kotor3 might be in developement, did you hate kotor 1-2?



EDIT: forget my last comment, i decided to ignore your try to create a flame war, anyone can decide for themselves how much accuracy and truth they think my thoughts about the pictures give, and what their own thoughts about the pictures are. I wish to hear the thoughts of the others, you Tale already said yours so please stop now

This post has been edited by Jorian Drake: Feb 24 2008, 05:31 PM

[samm]

Seems to have some good and some imo bad ideas about the end of the world

About the SW-Pics: Leferd said that KOTOR3 had been in development already (never heard of that tho, but never bothered anyway ), so this might be the reason for these pics.

This post has been edited by samm: Feb 24 2008, 05:37 PM

[Tale]

only those artists are allowed to use LucasArts on their own site as part of the main page who are either linking to Lucasarts.com or have a fulltime job there

and these pictures are not visible on the guys real concepts site, they would be if the project would had been scrapped


you aren't just 'realistic' its like you oppose the idea that Kotor3 might be in developement, did you hate kotor 1-2?

See the edit. I know he has worked with Lucasarts. But that does not mean the art was necessarily done for Lucasarts. Even artists with fulltime employment make art outside their employ. Though he could have made it for a scrapped KOTOR 3.

Your second statement is blatant assumption. Whether or not it's scrapped. Whether or not it was made for an actual project. If it had been scrapped, it's up to whoever the art belongs to for whether or not they'll be linked or even uploaded to his website at all.

I don't oppose the idea of KOTOR 3. I oppose blatant rumormongering and the constant neverending flood of reading way too much into every magazine article, press release, company dealing, merger, or piece of concept art that leads a drove of idiots to come out and start proclaiming that THIS! THIS! Finally THIS IS THE TRUE AND REAL CONFIRMATION OF KOTOR 3 BEING IN DEVELOPMENT! Unlike the last 50 billion things that caused them all to jump on board and make wild assumptions based on little evidence.

This is confirmation of nothing. If you want confirmation of KOTOR 3, wait for the press release. Stop jumping or creating rumors and trying to pass them off as fact. Pass them off as "it'd be cool" or "what do you think," anything but "CONFIRMED OMG KOTOR 3 IN PROGRESS FOR 2009-2010 RELEASE!"

If these were even 2007, you might have something to get excited about. 2004 is just reaching. Concept art that old would be scrapped anyway, even if it were in production.

This post has been edited by Tale: Feb 24 2008, 05:42 PM

[Jorian Drake]

Seems to have some good and some imo bad ideas about the end of the world

About the SW-Pics: Leferd said that KOTOR3 had been in development already (never heard of that tho, but never bothered anyway ), so this might be the reason for these pics.

itt depends on what we call end of the world, i guess in SW this means the outer rim region

[Jorian Drake]

only those artists are allowed to use LucasArts on their own site as part of the main page who are either linking to Lucasarts.com or have a fulltime job there

and these pictures are not visible on the guys real concepts site, they would be if the project would had been scrapped


you aren't just 'realistic' its like you oppose the idea that Kotor3 might be in developement, did you hate kotor 1-2?

See the edit. I know he has worked with Lucasarts. But that does not mean the art was necessarily done for Lucasarts. Even artists with fulltime employment make art outside their employ. Though he could have made it for a scrapped KOTOR 3.

Your second statement is blatant assumption. Whether or not it's scrapped. Whether or not it was made for an actual project. If it had been scrapped, it's up to whoever the art belongs to for whether or not they'll be linked or even uploaded to his website at all.

I don't oppose the idea of KOTOR 3. I oppose blatant rumormongering and the constant neverending flood of reading way too much into every magazine article, press release, company dealing, merger, or piece of concept art that leads a drove of idiots to come out and start proclaiming that THIS! THIS! Finally THIS IS THE TRUE AND REAL CONFIRMATION OF KOTOR 3 BEING IN DEVELOPMENT! Unlike the last 50 billion things that caused them all to jump on board and make wild assumptions based on little evidence.

This is confirmation of nothing. If you want confirmation of KOTOR 3, wait for the press release. Stop jumping or creating rumors and trying to pass them off as fact. Pass them off as "it'd be cool" or "what do you think," anything but "CONFIRMED OMG KOTOR 3 IN PROGRESS FOR 2009-2010 RELEASE!"

my last comment to you in this case:
i knew about 2 months before the official announcement that Mass Effect will come to PC aswell, on the same day of that announcement i gratulated on the Bioware forums for their decision to work on Jade Empire 2 and a possible KOTOR3, these pictures i only found today, but i have other sources that also pointed in the same direction and thats why i shared this info with the public on this and an other forum, i can tell that any info can be wrong, that might always happen, but if you get the same from different sources than the chances for misinformation become less

[Tale]

i knew about 2 months before the official announcement that Mass Effect will come to PC aswell, on the same day of that announcement i gratulated on the Bioware forums for their decision to work on Jade Empire 2 and a possible KOTOR3, these pictures i only found today, but i have other sources that also pointed in the same direction and thats why i shared this info with the public on this and an other forum, i can tell that any info can be wrong, that might always happen, but if you get the same from different sources than the chances for misinformation become less

Every time one of these rumors starts, it's always someone claiming that they have a reliable source. I hope you'll excuse me if I think it's fair to continue being skeptical.

This post has been edited by Tale: Feb 24 2008, 05:48 PM